Conversations with Clinicians

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In Spring 2022, the UDC Law Clinical Program launched Conversations with Clinicians, a series that brings leading experiential legal educators from across the country to the UDC Law community to discuss topics of interest to the clinical legal education community.

Join us each semester for a new season as we dive into some of the most pressing issues facing our professional community.

Season 3 (Spring 2023)

In Season 3, Episode 1 of Conversations with Clinicians, Professor Shelley Broderick speaks with Professor Bridgett Ortega (Atlanta’s John Marshall Law School). Prof. Bridgett Ortega and Prof. Shelley Broderick discuss the importance of externships in legal education.

In Season 3, Episode 2, Professor Andy Budzinski chats with Professor Gautam Hans (Cornell Law School) about creating pathways to clinical education.

In Season 3, Episode 4, Prof. Sakinah Tillman chats with Prof. Tameka Lester (Georgia State College of Law) about sparking the “tax law tingle” in students.

In Season 3, Episode 4, Professor Jerome Hughes chats with Prof. Hughes w/ Prof. Renee Hatcher and Prof. Huertas-Noble about their journey to clinical education and cooperatives as a specific form of transactional and community development lawyering. 

Season 2 (Fall 2022)

In Season 2, Episode 3 of Conversations with Clinicians (November 4, 2022), UDC Law’s Criminal Law Clinic Director Ieshaah Murphy is in conversation with Georgetown Law’s Professor Kris Henning. Professor Henning is the Director of the Juvenile Justice Clinic and Initiative. Her book, The Rage of Innocence: How America Criminalizes Black Youth, was published in 2021. Professor Henning and Professor Murphy talk about advocacy in clinic and beyond. 

In Season 2, Episode 2 of Conversations with Clinicians, Associate Dean of Clinical and Experiential Programs and Immigration & Human Rights Clinic Director Lindsay M. Harris speaks with Prof. Ron Tyler, who runs the Criminal Defense Clinic at Stanford. Prof. Tyler and Prof. Harris discuss burnout, secondary trauma and self-care in Clinic.

In Season 2, Episode 1 of Conversations with Clinicians (October 4, 2022), UDC Law’s Youth Justice Clinic Director Saleema Snow chats with Howard Law Professor Justin Hansford, Director of the Thurgood Marshall Civil Rights Center. Profs. Hansford and Snow discuss movement lawyering and the concept of unapologetic advocacy.

Season 1 (Spring 2022)

Season 1, Episode 3 (April 22, 2022): UDC Law General Practice Clinic Co-Director Prof. Tianna Gibbs and Prof. Norrinda Hayat of Rutgers Law (formerly; Hayat is now at Fordham Law) discuss antiracism in clinical pedagogy.

Season 1, Episode 2 (March 25, 2022): Assoc. Dean of Clinical and Experiential Programs Lindsay M. Harris chatted with Professor and Associate Provost Laila Hlass of Tulane Law and Associate Dean of Experiential Education Allison Korn of UCLA Law about trends in experiential legal education discussed in their 2020 Villanova Law Review article, “Assessing the Experiential (R)Evolution.”

Season 1, Episode 1 (March 11, 2022): UDC Law former Dean Renée Hutchins (now at University of Maryland Carey School of Law) talks to Co-Director of the Clinical Program at the University of Maryland Carey School of Law Michael Pinard for the pilot episode of Conversations with Clinicians. Pinard and Hutchins discussed career trajectories for clinicians.